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Friday, June 6, 2025

Is It Right to Shoot An ICE Agent At Your Door?

 


That is a hard question. 


On one hand it is both illegal and immoral to kill another human being. That stricture applies to any physical violence one human being does to any other human being. All such violence is wrong on its face. It is wrong even when taken in self defence. 


However, the moral component of violence becomes murkier when it is done for defence of life and property. If the threat of violence and/or deportation is imminent and credible such that the alleged target of ICE can be killed or sent to a prison in another country, then many will consider that violent action against a perceived threat by an ICE target justified even if it results in death of the ICE agent.


If a victim of ICE prosecution and/or imminent arrest fears for his deportation, life and/or property it may be that violence in defence of self, family and home is justified. But it is probable that the other agents will react by spraying the home with machine gun fire. Justified or not, lethal violence is a bad idea for that reason alone.


Doxing the agents so that the agent's family can be threatened is an immoral act; however, ICE agents committing deportation will not face such threats if they use proper documentation and allow due process. When the ICE agents do not follow Constitutional procedures they should not be surprised that neither do their targets.

 

The real problem is that the ICE agents most likely will not have a lawful warrant for the arrest of a person. Further the ICE agent can and may well violently take custody of that person and deport them to an ICE camp in another country, state or locality WITHOUT ALLOWING DUE PROCESS FOR THE TARGET. All such acts are crimes whether the person committing that crime is a sworn police officer, an ICE agent with invalid credentials or a random kidnapper. While it may seem reasonable for the subject of the arrest to let the reprocess proceed under the existing laws of the country, State and locality, standard ICE practice consists of immediate deportation and/or imprisonment WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

Self defence in that circumstance can be moral.



Sunday, June 1, 2025

Creating Nuremburg Justice for the Executive Office

 


It is never too early to create a mechanism to bring the GOP to justice. My question is this: 'How can we structure a Joint Congressional Committee to investigate crimes in the executive offices including but not limited to the president similar to the Nuremburg trials of Nazi's after WW 2.'

Perhaps some Senators and Representatives can start work on the idea now in readiness for the next election where it is both desirable and likely that the Democrats will be the majority Party in both houses. 

ChatGPT said:

Creating a Joint Congressional Committee to investigate alleged crimes within the executive branch — including those potentially committed by the President — and structuring it similarly to the Nuremberg Trials would be highly complex. The U.S. system of government, bound by constitutional protections like separation of powers and due process, limits Congress’s authority compared to post-war international tribunals. That said, here is a step-by-step conceptual framework for how such a committee could be structured within the bounds of U.S. law:


⚖️ 1. Legal Foundation

A committee with this kind of extraordinary scope would need a clear legal and constitutional basis:

  • Congressional Resolution or Act: A joint resolution passed by both chambers could create a Temporary Joint Investigative Committee on Executive Conduct, defining its mandate, powers, and limitations.
  • Supreme Court Review: Expect challenges to the legitimacy and scope; a preemptive review or legal defense strategy is essential.

🏛️ 2. Committee Structure

A high-level structure might include:

Role

Function

Bipartisan Leadership

Co-chairs from both parties, likely senior members from Judiciary or Oversight Committees.

Subcommittees

Organized by type of alleged crime: abuse of power, obstruction, corruption, civil rights violations, etc.

Legal Advisors

Constitutional and criminal law experts to ensure legal compliance.

Fact-Finding Teams

Subpoena power, field investigators, forensic accountants, etc.

Public Communications Office

To ensure transparency and maintain public trust.


🔎 3. Scope of Authority

Define jurisdiction carefully:

  • Crimes Under Federal Law: Fraud, abuse of power, obstruction of justice, espionage, etc.
  • Violations of International Law or Human Rights: If applicable, referencing treaty obligations like the Geneva Conventions or the Rome Statute.
  • Abuse of Office: Patterns of unethical or unlawful executive conduct, potentially including use of pardons, national security powers, or foreign influence.

📜 4. Powers and Tools

Like the Watergate and Church Committees, this one could have:

  • Subpoena Power (for testimony and documents)
  • Contempt Proceedings (if witnesses refuse to cooperate)
  • Immunity Grants (to compel testimony)
  • Collaboration with DOJ, IGs, and GAO (for law enforcement and auditing)
  • Public Hearings (modeled after Nuremberg/Watergate for transparency)

🌐 5. Accountability and Justice Mechanisms

This committee wouldn’t itself try cases like the Nuremberg Tribunal but could:

  • Refer Evidence to DOJ for Prosecution
  • Recommend Articles of Impeachment
  • Propose Structural Reforms (e.g., limit executive privilege, create an independent prosecutorial body)

🧭 6. Nuremberg-Like Features

To mirror the moral clarity and legal rigor of Nuremberg, the committee should:

Feature

Implementation

Documented Record of Abuses

Create a detailed historical and legal archive.

Clear Ethical Framework

Use international human rights principles as a guide.

Independent Judges or Review Panel

Consider appointing retired federal judges or special masters.

Transparency

Public reports, televised hearings, access to findings.


⚠️ 7. Limitations

  • No Judicial Authority: Congress cannot convict or imprison.
  • Political Risks: Can be dismissed as partisan unless handled with extreme fairness.
  • Constitutional Constraints: Especially regarding executive privilege and due process.

✅ Example Precedents to Study

  • Nuremberg Trials – For legal structure and moral clarity.
  • Watergate Hearings – For oversight and public engagement.
  • Iran-Contra Investigation
  • Church Committee – For intelligence and executive abuse oversight.
  • Truth and Reconciliation Commissions (South Africa, others) – For moral legitimacy.

 

 Here's a model draft resolution: 

I'm sure this framework needs a lot of work before calling for a vote, but it is a beginning.

ChatGPT said:

Here's a model draft resolution for establishing a Joint Congressional Committee to Investigate Executive Branch Crimes and Abuses, structured to align with U.S. law but inspired in part by the investigative rigor of the Nuremberg Trials:


🏛️ Model Congressional Resolution (Joint)

"Joint Resolution to Establish the Select Committee on Executive Accountability and Integrity"


116th CONGRESS
1st Session

JOINT RESOLUTION
To establish the Joint Select Committee on Executive Accountability and Integrity to investigate alleged violations of federal and international law by current or former officials of the executive branch, including the President of the United States, and to ensure constitutional accountability, transparency, and justice.


Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,


SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Joint Resolution may be cited as the “Executive Accountability and Integrity Act.”


SECTION 2. ESTABLISHMENT OF JOINT SELECT COMMITTEE.

There is hereby established the Joint Select Committee on Executive Accountability and Integrity (hereafter referred to as “the Committee”).


SECTION 3. PURPOSE AND MANDATE.

The purpose of the Committee shall be to:

1.      Investigate credible allegations of criminal conduct, corruption, abuse of power, or violations of federal or international law by executive branch officials, including current and former Presidents, Vice Presidents, Cabinet Secretaries, and senior advisors;

2.      Document a full public record of findings and make recommendations for criminal referrals, civil liability, or structural reforms;

3.      Uphold the rule of law and constitutional accountability in the highest offices of government.


SECTION 4. COMPOSITION.

·         The Committee shall consist of 20 members, 10 from the Senate and 10 from the House of Representatives, appointed equally by the Majority and Minority Leaders of both chambers.

·         The Committee shall have two Co-Chairs, one from each major political party, elected by the Committee members.


SECTION 5. POWERS.

The Committee shall have the authority to:

·         Issue subpoenas for testimony, documents, and records;

·         Administer oaths and compel witnesses;

·         Work in cooperation with the Department of Justice, Inspector Generals, Special Counsel Offices, and relevant state attorneys general;

·         Hold public and closed hearings;

·         Appoint independent special legal advisors, including experts in constitutional law, international law, and human rights;

·         Commission independent investigations and forensic audits.


SECTION 6. INVESTIGATIVE AREAS.

Investigative authority shall include, but not be limited to:

1.      Obstruction of justice

2.      Abuse of pardon power

3.      Improper use of executive privilege

4.      Foreign interference or collusion

5.      Unlawful enrichment, fraud, or misuse of federal resources

6.      Human rights abuses or war crimes

7.      Suppression or manipulation of federal agencies or intelligence


SECTION 7. REFERRALS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

The Committee may:

·         Refer evidence of criminal conduct to the Department of Justice or other prosecutorial authorities;

·         Recommend Articles of Impeachment, if applicable;

·         Propose legislative reforms to prevent future abuses;

·         Publish a Final Report of findings and recommendations.


SECTION 8. PUBLIC ACCESS AND TRANSPARENCY.

·         Hearings shall be televised or live-streamed, except where classified information is involved.

·         All findings shall be made available through an official public website and Congressional Record.


SECTION 9. DURATION AND FUNDING.

·         The Committee shall operate for a period of 24 months from the date of enactment, with the option of extension by majority vote of both chambers.

·         Funding shall be appropriated by Congress as necessary.


SECTION 10. PROTECTIONS AND IMMUNITIES.

·         The Committee shall ensure compliance with constitutional due process protections.

·         Witnesses may be granted limited immunity where necessary to obtain testimony.

·         Protections for whistleblowers, government employees, and civil society informants shall be guaranteed.


SECTION 11. SEVERABILITY.

If any provision of this Act is held invalid, the remainder shall not be affected.


SECTION 12. EFFECTIVE DATE.

This resolution shall take effect immediately upon enactment.